As it isn't possible to have 2 tone and filter PWM at the same time, why not having a closer look at gen. 2 It is very good in the resolution and gains good vibes on the "Acoustic Guitar" range. In this vid you see gen.2 at one channel. Then the melodic voice build on 3 operator PWM filter sound, and the percussion channel ... (not just playing hi hats)
The really challenging stuff for POKEY and Musician is to create tunes that put all the stuff into one tune with nice transitions. Some Tracker that allowed changes in the instruments, as it is regular given in synthesizing software, would allow to play tunes for hours and will never sound the same. dxRMT can do that on the tracker command side, but it is too buggy and crashes quickly.
Did you ever realize what my work on POKEY's sound means ?
Contrary to SID, POKEY has some analogue behavior when it comes to PWM. POKEY also has this 3,4MHz oscillation sound. You could write a program that uses the "resulting" shapes of the 3,4MHz sound. It is possible to create forward and backward sawtooth.... So you don't need to update POKEY at "15kHz" sampling rate. 50Hz can be enough, if you use some Program that analyzes the Waveform to replay. Is it ascending just set forward sawtooth, is it descending, set the backward sawtooth...and so on...
Not sure what you know. Alleycat FX is nice, but it is some random noise that reminds of things. The Dog bark is the greatest part in there.
I'm talking about "non random" sounds. You guys still don't understand that my work is built on full wave control. Waves that can beused in melodical steps. It's not my fault, if you don't share the same taste for music. But you really should have understood the potential in there...
The restrictions still were the limits of RMT...
Alleycat uses one "FX". The real challenge is to set a sound and to bring it to different notes...
@rbej1977 with all your "good taste in music", what should I propose to people who don't know the 8 bit scene, to make them liking the music they will hear ?
Let's have a closer look at THIS tune. It partially squeals a little too much for my taste, but the whole replay time, you hear "Samples" produced with the sound generators of POKEY. It cannot get more perfect as RMT doesn't allow to set a musical feature and POKEY's registers at the same time. It plays sounds that were "outside" the 8 bit range. Wave FX suggest not just PWM used . There is a lot more going.
"If you all were honest, you'd never guessed that this tune comes from a real Atari 800 setup and could be played on a computer from 1978...."
Yes, sounds like SID without filtering and stuff... ;)
I generally appreciate your efforts. However, VinsCool has some life turmoil and the guy from PoP has disappeared somewhere and probably does not develop his player for A8.
CommentTime19 May 2025 22:05 (1 dzień temu) zmieniony
@zbyti "doomed" is the correct word ;)
.... about "rensoupp" . It's absolutely given that the trolls at Atariage pissed him off. He did such a remarkable effort to the Atari scene, but they pissed on his work.
You know the difference between Atariage and Atarionline.pl ? Atarionline.pl supports 8 bit development.
This "Cuts N' pieces" sounds like (noise-free) samples to me ?!? Is SID still playing them with 16Bit or only 8Bit ?!?
off-topic: PDM 4+4 with 44khz on the A8 does not sound any better (personally I think it sounds worse), but it uses lots of memory and can therefore only be streamed off of an SD-card (AVG, SUB, SIDE) or a large A8 cartridge (The!Cart, etc.). Converted more than 500 rock and pop songs into PDM (8Bit mono Pokey), PDS (8Bit stereo Pokey) and COS (8Bit stereo Covox) format, but I guess no-one except me will ever listen to them on the A8 - and play these songs from CD or as MP3 instead...
CommentTime19 May 2025 23:05 (1 dzień temu) zmieniony
Zbyti - a ma się tak, że Pokey pokazuje, że w roku 1978 grał lepiej, niż późniejszy SID, i że nie musi się wstydzić nawet amigowskiej Pauli. A poza tym ja ani o sidzie, ani o pokeju i ich wzajemnych koneksjach nie pisałem, mój drogi. Za nieuważne i bezrozumne czytanie też ban się należy. :-P
@Konstantyn ale w ogóle to cię rozumiem :P ja wyniosłem się z pewnej grupy gdzie zachwycałem się demkiem Ilmenita na MicroW8 i okazało się, że jestem "nie w temacie" :P no ale się wyniosłem ;) polecam :)
CommentTime19 May 2025 23:05 (1 dzień temu) zmieniony
Zbyti - akurat debaty i różnego typu sugestie mają na mnie wpływ żaden. Więc dziękuję, ale nie skorzystam. Znaczy nawet gdyby tak się kiedyś stało to będzie to moja i tylko moja decyzja, niezależna, bez zasięgania opinii czyjejkolwiek. No chyba, że mnie wyrzucą (zawsze niesłusznie), też tak bywa, ale to inny aspekt życiowej pielgrzymki na tym łez padole. :-) Aczkolwiek zawsze mam przed oczami słowa Pisma o strzepywaniu prochu z nóg i czasem korzystam z myśli zawartej w tym czytaniu. Więc ten...
CommentTime20 May 2025 00:05 (1 dzień temu) zmieniony
Zbyti - już dobrze, dobrze, usunąłem mój wpis i przepraszam, że wlazłem z buciorami nieproszony. Aczkolwiek nie uważam, że było to nie na temat, gdyż poniekąd dotyczyło Pokeya. No tak, a powinno Pokeya i SID-a jednocześnie, racja. Pozdrawiam i dobrej nocy życzę.
